Kirk Cameron & Ray Comfort to take their lies to college campuses

The latest despicable tactic from the duo who practically invented despicable, Kirk Cameron and Ray “Banana Man” Comfort, is to give away free copies of their own version of Darwin’s Origin of Species with a 50-page introduction filled with creationist nonsense.

What’s amazing is that Kirk couldn’t go even 10 seconds before lying his ass off. Of course kids can pray in public. That’s absurd.

Fortunately, there is a strategy to counter this repulsive tactic. Those students who know better can collect as many of these free books as they can and can remove the offending introduction. In which case, those copies can then be donated elsewhere so that Cameron and Comfort will have unwittingly helped promote Darwin’s work. And that thought makes me smile.

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10 Responses to Kirk Cameron & Ray Comfort to take their lies to college campuses

  1. makaila says:

    Yes, kids can pray in public. But not without consequences. Being teased, made fun of, told your wrong, mean looks and rude actions are just a few of the things kids, or adults, have to put up with today for praying or showing faith in God in public. Yes technicly we can pray in public but its not easy. Today people are called weird, geeks, freaks, or prudes for having a realationship or faith in God. People always seem to get upset when someone speaks about their faith or anything to do with God but yet there are people out there selling their body for money and other such things like that and most people have nothing to say about them. Its funny how we have health class and talk about sex in school but their are no classes for religon and God in middle or high school. “more than 50% of U.S. teens ages 15 to 19 have engaged in oral sex. This number increases to almost 70% for those who are 18 and 19. the majority of young women become sexually active during their teenage years, the proportion who have had intercourse reaches at least three-quarters by age 20. Only 15% of adults said they abstained from sex until they were 21 years of age.” says the site-http://sexuality.about.com/od/sexinformation/a/teen_sex_stats.htm
    I think the the world needs more people like Kirk Cameron, who cares so much he wants the world to know his beliefs and know the facts so they can knowingly choose how they believe and choose to live.
    Thats all I had to say. Thanks for reading if you did.
    thanx- Makaila
    age 15

    • mjr256 says:

      If the claim was that kids can’t pray in public without being teased, I still think he’s dead wrong. I guarantee you that atheists, gays, Jews, blacks, Hispanics, and dozens of other groups get teased far more in our society than Christians. Maybe in other countries it’s normal for Christians to be teased but certainly not in the U.S., where the Christians outnumber socks.

      But that’s a different position than saying kids aren’t allowed to pray in public, the implication being that they will be disciplined by some authority for doing so. And I know where Kirk is going with that. He’s referring to the laws governing public schools, where it’s unconstitutional for school authorities to single out time in the day specifically for the purpose of prayer or “a moment of silence,” which is just a veiled backdoor attempt to get official prayer in schools. He might also be referring to other cases where courthouses and other tax-payer funded government buildings have been forced to remove Ten Commandment displays due to the fact that it violates the 1st amendment.

      Now proselytizing is completely different than praying. Proselytizing is getting in people’s faces and pushing your beliefs on them, so people have every right to get upset when they get a religion at their door that they didn’t order or hear street preachers in the park yelling about what terrible sinners they are. Hell, people find atheists annoying for just writing books and holding lectures. For all the talk of how one’s faith is a private matter, the religious can’t seem to ever shut up about their “private” beliefs.

      Now those people who you mention that are selling their bodies don’t bother people (except the religious for some reason) because they just go about their business. If random prostitutes showed up at people’s doors or made a spectacle of themselves by preaching their philosophy in public parks in the middle of the day and got in people’s faces, then maybe people would be bothered by them. But as it is, what they do in the privacy of the bedroom doesn’t concern me.

      We talk about sex in school because it’s vital to the student’s future and present health. And in some schools like my high school, we got to study a broad range of religions. I’m all for that as well as Critical Thinking classes, because that is valuable to the students’ education. What I strongly oppose is any religion trying to force its beliefs and values onto students. And whenever I hear this argument I always have to ask the Christian how they’d feel if kids were taught Islam in the high schools. The answer, I surmise, is that you wouldn’t be happy about it one bit. Well that’s how I feel about children being taught your silly religion as well.

      And it’s funny you should mention the statistics of teen sex. There’s nothing wrong with teen sex. It’s only teens who engage in unsafe sex that concerns me. And recent studies show an interesting correlation. The more religious a place is, the higher the rate of teens engaging in unsafe sex. Why? If I were to guess, it’d be the abstinence-only sex ed programs that don’t actually prepare the teens for real life.

      Now I’ve already expose Kirk to be a fool, a liar and a fraud. And he certainly doesn’t want people to know the facts. If you want to continue to pitch your tent to that wagon (is that an expression?), be my guest.

  2. makaila says:

    Also please go to the site- http://www.tangle.com/view_video?viewkey=ee73e63418003b47d7d5

    Watch the whole thing. Its an amazing video that everyone should watch with an open mind. You’ve got nothing to lose so why not watch it, right?

    Is Jesus your Lord and Savior?
    Romans 10:13 For “whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
    Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
    Will you believe and confess?

    • mjr256 says:

      I remain horribly impressed by this video. I’ve already have far more religion in my life than I can stomach and watching charismatic cult leaders shower young people with love and affection in order to gain their trust doesn’t impress me one bit. I’ve heard over 90% of all the arguments that have probably ever been made for religion and for Christianity specifically. More emotional gimmicks are completely uncompelling evidence for anything. And using the Bible to prove the validity of the Bible is as useful as using Harry Potter to prove that validity of Harry Potter.

      But if you want to play cheery-pick the Bible passages, fine:
      Exodus 21:2-6 NLT
      Exodus 21:7-11 NLT
      Exodus 21:20-21 NAB
      Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT
      Deuteronomy 15:12-15
      Ephesians 6:5 NLT
      1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT
      Colossians 4:1
      Luke 12:47-48? NLT
      1 Peter 2:18

  3. Andy says:

    If you really wanted people to believe your delirious sputterings you shouldn’t have put the Cameron video on here. He is simply promoting a book that has both sides of the argument in it for thinking individuals to make up their own mind and you are recommending censoring that? You are simply running away from the truth. Oh yeah, if you really think that anyone believes that you have heard 90% of the arguments out there for christianity you are just showing what a tiny little pond you live in.

    • mjr256 says:

      Both sides of what argument? Reality? Kirk does not get to determine what facts are and aren’t controversial. There is no scientific controversy concerning whether or not Evolution is true. The Ray Comfort edition to Origin of Species is nothing short of literary graffiti. Not only is part of Comfort’s introduction plagiarized but the part of the introduction he wrote himself is pure propaganda that willfully distorts facts:

      http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/10/30/how-creationist-origin-distorts-darwin.html

      http://www.dontdissdarwin.com/

      If people want to get think for themselves, they can read an UNBIASED copy of the book and judge for themselves. They don’t need to read the flat-out lies of Ray Comfort to make up their minds, especially when Comfort mostly just attacks Darwin as a person because he’s too cowardly to address the science head-on.

      I’m not censoring anything. However I don’t take kindly to plagiarists (http://ncse.com/news/2009/12/ray-comfort-plagiarist-005210) and propagandists, who you seem quite fond of.

      “Oh yeah, if you really think that anyone believes that you have heard 90% of the arguments out there for christianity you are just showing what a tiny little pond you live in.”

      Try me. I dare you.

  4. Andy says:

    “There is no scientific controversy concerninig whether or not evolution is true,”?!! That statement simply proves one of two things. Either you’re too unreasonable to objectively look at the arguments for creationism and the many scientists and intellectuals who support it, or you really do have a very limited exposure to what is actually going on in the scientific community. Judging by what I’ve seen and heard from you it’s probably the former and I’m not a big fan of spinning my wheels.

    • mjr256 says:

      No, you’re statement however shows that you don’t know the slightest thing about evolution or science in general. You also don’t know anything about logic as you’re making a bad attempt at an argument from authority. Look up Project Steve and you’ll find that there are more scientists named Steve than there are scientists by any name who support creationism. So do you really want to turn it into a numbers game? Really?

      Unfortunately, reality is not a popularity contest and the truth is the truth no matter how many people believe it.

      And I’m still waiting for the devastating creationist argument I’ve never heard before.

  5. Andy says:

    if you do ever want to objectively look at the overwhelming scientific evidence for creationism I suggest looking up the “Institute for Creation Research”. I sincerely hope you the best.

    • mjr256 says:

      LOL

      Yeah, if you ever want to join reality, I suggest looking up the National Center for Science Education. I sincerely hope you pick up a book some time…other than the Bible.

      Oh, and just for fun, here’s most of the creationist arguments in a nutshell:

      X exists therefore an X-maker must exist.

      Yeah, that’s real compelling stuff.

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